Mr. > Bro. > W.Bro.

[MBC]

Just curious on different jurisdictions, what is the moment when you transform from Mr to Bro and Bro to a WBro?

In the UGLE, the moment when the WM said Rise to the initiate is the time when he becomes a brother and not a Mister anymore in Craft.
However I am not sure with Worshipful in UGLE, I would guess it is similar when the time the Installing Master said Rise as well.

What are the practices in your jurisdictions?
Also VWBro, RWBro, and MWBro?

 

[Ripcord22A]

In Oregon and New Mexico it is Bro, WBro, RWBro and MWbro for the GM and Past GMs. a Mr becomes a Bro after he has completed his obligation and a Bro becomes a WBro when he has completed the installation charge.

In Oregon the Grand Chaplain, Secretary and above are Right Worshipful with the GM being Most Worshipful. In New Mexico it starts with the Junior Grand Deacon as Right Worshipful and the GM being Most Worshipful. Everyone below Junior Grand Deacon is Worshipful.

Also in both the DDGMs are Right Worshipful.

 

[MBC]

In Oregon and New Mexico it is Bro, WBro, RWBro and MWbro for the GM and Past GMs. a Mr becomes a Bro after he has completed his obligation and a Bro becomes a WBro when he has completed the installation charge.

In Oregon the Grand Chaplain, Secretary and above are Right Worshipful with the GM being Most Worshipful. In New Mexico it starts with the Junior Grand Deacon as Right Worshipful and the GM being Most Worshipful. Everyone below Junior Grand Deacon is Worshipful.

Also in both the DDGMs are Right Worshipful.

Ah very interesting.
In UGLE, GM and Pro GMs present and past has the style of MW,
Other rulers and Grand Wardens are RW,
Some of the Grand Officers here got VW,
And the rest are Wor.
I guess they will have the prefix when the GM or Pro GM invest their collars.


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[Ripcord22A]

oops I left that part out...yes past GM are also MW. Im not aware of any US Jurisdiciton that has PGM or PM as an actually office, its just a title as in "MWBro Smith, PGM GLo New Mexico" Also in case you weren't sure...DDGM is District Deputy GM. We don't have Provincial GMs. The DDGM is appointed to that position by the GM to be his eyes and ears with in a certain District. Usually a DDGM must have been a WM first. They have no actual powers except when on an official visit. Meaning if they are just attending a meeting at their home lodge as a member then they are just a sideliner like every one else.

 

[Bloke]

Hi TerWM.

We would be like you, same ranks like Rip but VWBro is used here.

As you know, we use Emulation inspired ritual, so a Mr becomes a Bro on conclusion of the obligation, it's very clear.

The moment a WM becomes WBro is not so clear, let's just say he goes into the Board of Installed Masters a Bro and emerges WBro.

All our pre and post Nominals are here
http://www.lodgedevotion.net/devotionnews/education-editorial-articles/masonic-appellations

Cheers
WBro Bloke

 

[Bill Lins]

Under GLoTX, "Mr." becomes "Bro." at the conclusion of the EA Obligation. "Worshipful Master" is the title of the sitting WM from the time he is installed until his successor is installed. As for GL officers, the sitting Grand Tiler, Pursuivant, Jr. & Sr. Stewards, and Jr. & Sr. Deacons are all styled "Worshipful", while the sitting DDGMs, Grand Chaplain, Orator, Marshal, Secretary, Treasurer, Jr. & Sr. Wardens, and Deputy GM are all styled "Right Worshipful". In addition, the members of the Committee on Work and the Past GMs all have that title and retain it after leaving office. The sitting GM holds the title of "Most Worshipful".

 

[Bloke]

Under GLoTX, "Mr." becomes "Bro." at the conclusion of the EA Obligation. "Worshipful Master" is the title of the sitting WM from the time he is installed until his successor is installed. As for GL officers, the sitting Grand Tiler, Pursuivant, Jr. & Sr. Stewards, and Jr. & Sr. Deacons are all styled "Worshipful", while the sitting DDGMs, Grand Chaplain, Orator, Marshal, Secretary, Treasurer, Jr. & Sr. Wardens, and Deputy GM are all styled "Right Worshipful". In addition, the members of the Committee on Work and the Past GMs all have that title and retain it after leaving office. The sitting GM holds the title of "Most Worshipful".

Hi Bill. Thanks for that. Do they confer Grand Rank in Texas or do you have to have performed the office to get the pre & post nominals ? Conferral used to be very common here, but they are trying to reduce the number of brethren who hold Grand Rank so it is becoming rarer.

 

[MBC]

Thank you brethren for the contributions.
Indeed we have quite a similar system with UGLV, but we don't rotate our Grand Master (He was GM since 1967) and a few offices are different in the Grand Lodge level, such as something like GSuptWks and GInspWkgs the rest are the same I believe.

Under GLoTX, "Mr." becomes "Bro." at the conclusion of the EA Obligation. "Worshipful Master" is the title of the sitting WM from the time he is installed until his successor is installed. As for GL officers, the sitting Grand Tiler, Pursuivant, Jr. & Sr. Stewards, and Jr. & Sr. Deacons are all styled "Worshipful", while the sitting DDGMs, Grand Chaplain, Orator, Marshal, Secretary, Treasurer, Jr. & Sr. Wardens, and Deputy GM are all styled "Right Worshipful". In addition, the members of the Committee on Work and the Past GMs all have that title and retain it after leaving office. The sitting GM holds the title of "Most Worshipful".

Do the Past Masters got Worshipful prefix as well?

 

[Bloke]

Thank you brethren for the contributions.
Indeed we have quite a similar system with UGLV, but we don't rotate our Grand Master (He was GM since 1967) and a few offices are different in the Grand Lodge level, such as something like GSuptWks and GInspWkgs the rest are the same I believe.



Do the Past Masters got Worshipful prefix as well?

Yep. I am a WBro by virtue of being a Past Master

Our GM does two years, although this can be extended which I've seen once because he was overseeing a large project...

 

[Canadian Paul]

In Scottish lodges ALL brethren, from the Grand Master Mason to the newest EA all have 'Brother' as their only title. Titles such as 'Worshipful', 'Very Worshipful', etc. are attached to offices and not to brethren holding them or who have held them.

As Master of my lodge I was 'Bro. Paul Miller' and addressed as 'the Right Worshipful Master'. After passing through the Chair I remained 'Bro. Paul Miller' but may put the initials 'PM" after my name.

Notice that Masters of Scottish Lodges are 'Right Worshipful Masters'(and our Wardens are 'Worshipful Wardens' ) so insofar as titles go, the old adage holds - 'What you lose on the roundabouts you pick up on the swings'!

 

[MarkR]

In Minnesota, it's "brother" from the moment of EA obligation, W.Bro. for those who have been elected Master. At the Grand Lodge level, the Grand Master is Most Worshipful, and only the elected officers (Grand Sec'y, Grand Treasurer, Junior and Senior Grand Wardens, and Deputy Grand Master) are Right Worshipful. All other Grand Lodge officers simply remain Worshipful Brother.

 

[Warrior1256]

Under GLoTX, "Mr." becomes "Bro." at the conclusion of the EA Obligation. "Worshipful Master" is the title of the sitting WM from the time he is installed until his successor is installed. As for GL officers, the sitting Grand Tiler, Pursuivant, Jr. & Sr. Stewards, and Jr. & Sr. Deacons are all styled "Worshipful", while the sitting DDGMs, Grand Chaplain, Orator, Marshal, Secretary, Treasurer, Jr. & Sr. Wardens, and Deputy GM are all styled "Right Worshipful". In addition, the members of the Committee on Work and the Past GMs all have that title and retain it after leaving office. The sitting GM holds the title of "Most Worshipful".

I believe that the above also pertains to Kentucky.

 

[Bill Lins]

Hi Bill. Thanks for that. Do they confer Grand Rank in Texas or do you have to have performed the office to get the pre & post nominals ? Conferral used to be very common here, but they are trying to reduce the number of brethren who hold Grand Rank so it is becoming rarer.

I've never heard of "Grand Rank". What is it?

 

[Bill Lins]

Do the Past Masters got Worshipful prefix as well?

No, but they are often referred to as "Has Beens".

 

[Bloke]

I've never heard of "Grand Rank". What is it?

A rank conferred by GL or obtained by occupying a Grand Lodge office. The first one generally conferred is "Past Grand Standard Bearer" and when leaving a Grand Team: "Past Grand Steward".

 

[The Traveling Man]

In Michigan you are Mr. until the Ob. After the Ob. you become Brother. As for Grand Officers, the Grand Tyler, Marshall and Deacons are Worshipful. Grand Chaplain to Deputy Grand Master are Right Worshipful. Grand Master is Most Worshipful.
WMs and PMs are Worshipful. GMs and PGMs are Most Worshipful.

 

[Glen Cook]

I've never heard of "Grand Rank". What is it?

In UGLE, you may be given a past grand rank without ever having served in the office. In Cheshire, I am a Past Provincial Junior Grand Warden, even though the highest Cheshire office I've served in is that of WM. You will find the same practice in other jurisdictions modelled on UGLE

 

[Bill Lins]

A rank conferred by GL or obtained by occupying a Grand Lodge office. The first one generally conferred is "Past Grand Standard Bearer" and when leaving a Grand Team: "Past Grand Steward".

The only GL "Pasts" we have are "Past Grand Master"s (PGM).

 

[Bloke]

The only GL "Pasts" we have are "Past Grand Master"s (PGM).

Thanks Bill

 

[The Traveling Man]

In UGLE, you may be given a past grand rank without ever having served in the office. In Cheshire, I am a Past Provincial Junior Grand Warden, even though the highest Cheshire office I've served in is that of WM. You will find the same practice in other jurisdictions modelled on UGLE

Is there a reason they gave you a Grand Officer rank, despite you never being a Grand Lodge officer? And is there a reason they chose Junior Grand Warden specifically?