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Need Urgent Clarification!!! Hbd

Mqc1298

Registered User
I need help with understanding the issue of why is John G. Jones considered bogus but everything I’ve read (on google, please don’t chew me out to bad) has him as a legitimate mason who helped start the Scottish Rite.. I may be wrong but it’s all so confusing.. I see the animosity with PHA, but can’t find much from Mainstream POV.. Can someone please give me a much simpler understanding of it all..
 

Bloke

Premium Member
I need help with understanding the issue of why is John G. Jones considered bogus but everything I’ve read (on google, please don’t chew me out to bad) has him as a legitimate mason who helped start the Scottish Rite.. I may be wrong but it’s all so confusing.. I see the animosity with PHA, but can’t find much from Mainstream POV.. Can someone please give me a much simpler understanding of it all..
Animosity ? Not from me - I am proud of my Price Hall Brothers !

This might help
https://www.myfreemasonry.com/threads/we-are-not-all-brothers.20377/
 

Winter

Premium Member
PHA isn't illegitimate but it appears Mr. Jones became so. I think most of us here have always been very supportive of PHA. But after doing some reading on John G. Jones I can see why he is viewed in such a negative light. Despite a laudable early Masonic career it looks like he took an odd turn. Setting up clandestine Lodges, conferring degrees to people without a petition being submitted to a regular Lodge. There appears to be a long list of his clandestine activity. I'm sure there are two sides to this story, but it definitely appears that he became a clandestine mason. Not to confuse him with regular PHA Freemasonry who are not irregular or clandestine.

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Keith C

Registered User
Is "PHA" always going to be used to describe an illegitimate body ?


Bloke: I believe the OP's reference to "animosity with PHA" is describing the legitimate PHA GLs being firmly against the illegitimate John G Jones GLs, not any animosity between PHL and other regular GLs.
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
PHA isn't illegitimate but it appears Mr. Jones became so. I think most of us here have always been very supportive of PHA. But after doing some reading on John G. Jones I can see why he is viewed in such a negative light. Despite a laudable early Masonic career it looks like he took an odd turn. Setting up clandestine Lodges, conferring degrees to people without a petition being submitted to a regular Lodge. There appears to be a long list of his clandestine activity. I'm sure there are two sides to this story, but it definitely appears that he became a clandestine mason. Not to confuse him with regular PHA Freemasonry who are not irregular or clandestine.
Yeah, I've read up quite a bit on this matter your view certainly seems correct in my opinion.
 

Mqc1298

Registered User
Bloke: I believe the OP's reference to "animosity with PHA" is describing the legitimate PHA GLs being firmly against the illegitimate John G Jones GLs, not any animosity between PHL and other regular GLs.
That’s correct.. I’ve read The Phylaxis page by page, but I can find nothing from a mainstream POV..
 

Dontrell Stroman

Premium Member
One thing to note, John G Jones is credited for helping start up AEAONMS (Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles Mystic Shrine ) in other words the Prince Hall Shriners. I am not familiar with him starting the “Consistory” you are speaking of.


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Mqc1298

Registered User
One thing to note, John G Jones is credited for helping start up AEAONMS (Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order Nobles Mystic Shrine ) in other words the Prince Hall Shriners. I am not familiar with him starting the “Consistory” you are speaking of.


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My apologies, I misspoke on the proper name.
 
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