Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a ritualist?Cannot argue that the ritual is in the krapper within allot of lodges but why? It was spot on 30 years and back. My lodge had two sometimes 3 degree teams that where about as clean as they come from I read and am told, so what happen? Some of those men are even still alive and active? Did Grand Lodge police the ritual back then? My guess is it might be connected to the that generation not replacing themselves with the new generation so after years of churning out the same ritual they got tired of it and went on to something else. Most went to appendant bodies where fresh challenges await them and the blue lodge ritual was left behind because no new blood was there to marvel in its mysteries. That is just a theory. Seeing the results Tommy Griffin had trying to improve the ritual I am not sure legislation would help. That caused a ton of belly aching but maybe that is a good thing this is a tough issue as I am very partial to a good ritual but hate hearing the moaning some do over the issue.
Sometimes you can talk a terrorist into giving up.I think? but enlighten me none the less.
Cannot argue that the ritual is in the krapper within allot of lodges but why? It was spot on 30 years and back. My lodge had two sometimes 3 degree teams that where about as clean as they come from I read and am told, so what happen? Some of those men are even still alive and active? Did Grand Lodge police the ritual back then? My guess is it might be connected to the that generation not replacing themselves with the new generation so after years of churning out the same ritual they got tired of it and went on to something else. Most went to appendant bodies where fresh challenges await them and the blue lodge ritual was left behind because no new blood was there to marvel in its mysteries. That is just a theory. Seeing the results Tommy Griffin had trying to improve the ritual I am not sure legislation would help. That caused a ton of belly aching but maybe that is a good thing this is a tough issue as I am very partial to a good ritual but hate hearing the moaning some do over the issue.
Why do we need Grand Lodge to police our ritual why can we not handle this at the lodge level?
Cannot argue that the ritual is in the krapper within allot of lodges but why? It was spot on 30 years and back. <snip> Did Grand Lodge police the ritual back then?
Do you think R.W. Carnes and R.W. Rogers can get the law changed back? I for one would sure like to see it happen. This past week I visited three lodges and 2 (TWO) could not even come close to opening or closing. Talk about short form.Papa, the GL Law used to read "shall"- it got changed to "should" & that's when the ritual went south.
Do you think R.W. Carnes and R.W. Rogers can get the law changed back?
I think men come to Masonry for many different reasons, and I think that's okay. However, I've also come to appreciate sitting around in my jeans, chewing the fat, and just enjoying the company of my brothers. I can understand why someone would come to Masonry and stay active in Masonry just for the company of good men.
In my opinion, we have more than enough lodges in Texas that we can have ritual/philosphy-focussed lodges and more fraternity-focussed lodges and direct candidates to lodges appropriate for their interests. I think it's a sign of the depth of Freemasonry if different men can get different things out of it.
Are you going to share your LIQUID LODGE with other brothers?many of us meet at a local watering hole afterwards for "Liquid Lodge".
My Lodge is one in which we dress casually & put great importance on fellowship, however we also place great emphasis on correct ritual. (Could it be because the DI is also the Secretary?) ;-)
Why can't a Lodge place proper importance on both ritual & philosophy and fraternity? I think it can & mine does. We insist upon correct ritual, our Chaplain presents a Masonic educational talk (usually philosophical in nature) at almost every meeting, and, besides the fellowship before & during Lodge, many of us meet at a local watering hole afterwards for "Liquid Lodge".
Are you going to share your LIQUID LODGE with other brothers?
Papa, the GL Law used to read "shall"- it got changed to "should" & that's when the ritual went south.