Am i wrong?

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by jfree7997, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. BroBook

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    I know for a fact that there are white Prince Hall masons in Pensacola Florida .


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  2. tldubb

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    Yes, I know plenty of white PHA brethren!

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  3. Bro. BaSean Pearson

    Bro. BaSean Pearson Registered User

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    Which lodge in Newport News? My lodge is in Newport News also.


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  4. jfree7997

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    Bremond lodge. What's yours

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  5. Bro. BaSean Pearson

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    Oh ok, on Warwick Boulevard. Fletcher Lodge #26 A.F&A.M


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  6. jfree7997

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    Is that pha

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  7. bupton52

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    That is not PHA with AF&AM after it in the United States.

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  9. Bro. BaSean Pearson

    Bro. BaSean Pearson Registered User

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    It is not Prince Hall.


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  10. Bro. BaSean Pearson

    Bro. BaSean Pearson Registered User

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    PHA, F&AM, or AF&AM, we're still brothers, on the same journey.


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  11. bupton52

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    I have to disagree with you. While my faith allows me to regard all members of mankind as a brother, when it comes to masonic membership that is untrue. I would be glad to assist you finding a lodge in your area and placing you in contact someone for membership.

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  12. BroBook

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    The problem is what "if" after completing the journey your pass key is counterfeit that's an issue that I just ratified, just by knowing better and then doing better it's all about recognized as legit and regular


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  13. Bro. BaSean Pearson

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    We have a constitution. What happened in the past has nothing to do with my personal journey. We're learning the same thing. I haven't been denied recognition by a Prince Hall brother yet, most of the time they don't even know I'm AF&AM.


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  14. bupton52

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    If you are happy where you are, so be it. I will be available to assist you if you decide to join a legitimate masonic lodge. Just FYI, a constitution does not mak a group of masons.

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  15. Bro. BaSean Pearson

    Bro. BaSean Pearson Registered User

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    I know my lodge is legit, and that can not be denied. I see all Masons as my brother, I expect the same in return


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  16. bupton52

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    It can absolutely be denied, my good man. Absolutely.

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  17. bupton52

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    A Clandestine Mason is one who is a member of a Grand Lodge that was not formed in accordance with the ancient customs and usages or a Lodge whose Charter was revoked (thus removing the Masonic authority). There are literally hundreds of these "bogus" organizations existent today. Some were formed by expelled members, some were simply invented organizations. Your Grand Lodge (through your Lodge Secretary) can provide a list of Lodges Masonic. That list is authoritative for your Grand Lodge and lists all Lodges that your Grand Lodge permits you to visit as a Mason.

    While each GL is free to recognize as "regular" any other GL they wish, generally speaking those GLs which are "regular" adhere to at least 3 basic criteria. 1. Regularity of Origin (This means that the GL was formed by Lodges holding charters from recognized Grand Lodges - usually at least 3 Lodges). 2. Regularity of practice - (this means that the GL adheres to the ancient landmarks - Belief in Supreme being, Hiramic legend, Volume of Sacred Law required, men only, etc.) 3. Territorial Sovereignty - That the GL is the sole authority for Masonry in it's territory OR in amity with any GLs sharing territory. Those not meeting all three are considered "Clandestine". If a GL is regular or origin, but departs from the landmarks (e.g. women, atheists, etc) it is considered Irregular.

    Your GL does not meet the very first requirement and is considered clandestine by every lehitimate GL in the United States

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  18. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    And that is part of the problem. You refuse to recognize Regularity. Regularity is extremely important to Freemasonry. Instead you place personal arrogance about "legit" over Regularity.
     
  20. Bro. BaSean Pearson

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    At the end of the day, only God can judge me. I may even reconsider this now cause this is not what I joined for.


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