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Does happiness create wealth

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  1. Bird_n_hand

    Bird_n_hand Registered User

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    How many of you have read or watched the movie the secret,
    I've been really Into this for a little while. I feel like it has positively effected my life. It makes me feel like life is more fulfilling. But has anyone ever gotten the financial wealth from using it. I havnt. I have only gotten from it that life is a choice and I can choose happiness. Joy. Gratitude. Faith. And thereby making me happier.
     
  2. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    No, happiness does not create wealth. However both happiness and wealth come from the same set of causative factors.
     
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  3. Bird_n_hand

    Bird_n_hand Registered User

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    I always heard. Do what you love. And love doing what your doing and wealth will come to you, the only thing I really love is sharing my ideas. And being positive. Maybe I should finish writing a book. I don't know if wealth will come from that but I'd feel good about doing it
     
  4. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    I have. I also taught the subject years before the movie came out. The movie is misleading.
    Describe/define "positive effect".
    No. It truly doesn't. Nothing makes you feel anything. That is your own doing.
    If they claim they have, they are lying.
    Nothing makes you happier; only you do. Happiness comes from a state of being brought about by choice. When you are one to have happiness that occurs when you have things occur, you are basing your happiness on external factors. And you are attracting more of the same by being this way.
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    Agreed!
    Yep. And they are not what many come to believe.
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    I have heard that too. It's not so simple and those who espouse and promote are not telling it right.

    Attraction is a game of preparation and chance. What you must do to play well is consciously play by game rules.
    1. Wealth starts by being wealth minded - BE.
    2. This brings about actions which promote wealth and minimized waste - DO.
    3. This increases the probability of wealth and decreases the probability of waste - HAVE.
    Whatever you "love" to do, it has to be done in such a way as to provide some value to others when you want to do it so well that people willing toss money at you for doing it. It's not as simple as just doing it without an end in mind. That end in mind must have continuity with all the actions that support it.

    If you chose to love all this, it's icing on the cake. But you don't have to. That's still optional.
    Then you must create or be within a system that rewards you financially for sharing them.
    Define "positive". BTW - This can work against you should you define it improperly in terms of life, the universe, and everything - you know - REALITY.
    That would be a good idea, if doing so serves some valuable purpose.
    Classic mistake. Who you are choosing to BE, is someone who sees an end in mind but who has no solid plan to bring the EIM about with the "feel good" being the driving force. What you will ATTRACT is the result that such BEING brings about.

    You might benefit from reading a classic: Think and Grow Rich
     
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  5. LK600

    LK600 Premium Member

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    That greatly depends on your definition of "Wealth".
     
  6. Bird_n_hand

    Bird_n_hand Registered User

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    Now that I put some more thought into it. I think you both are right. Wealth and happiness has to be mutually exclusive. Someone can be happy and broke. Or wealthy and miserable, I don't need money to be happy because happiness is a state of being that is a choice. So if I can learn to be happy with little money. Then i can also be happy I'm abundance. So comcludes my meditations on this, Thanks for the answere guys!
     
  7. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

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    I think you intend "mutually independent". As in their is no conflict between them and they have no effect on each other. Which is nearly true - Poverty can cause unhappiness so it's not completely true.
     
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  8. Mike Martin

    Mike Martin Eternal Apprentice Premium Member

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    Happiness is the only wealth that I have.
     
  9. Bird_n_hand

    Bird_n_hand Registered User

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    Beautiful said
     
  10. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    Agreed.
    Nice!
     
  11. Bird_n_hand

    Bird_n_hand Registered User

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    Idk about this, their was a time when I lived in the back of my SUV with my girlfriend and we were both happy. In poverty the only thing you lose is things, things don't make a man and things can be replaced with more things. Only in emptiness can you really find yourself and learn what is truely important, I still believe happiness is a choice to this day. And poverty doesn't choose unhappiness for you. You have to choose it for yourself
     
  12. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

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    Different level of poverty. Enough poverty and starvation starts. As does illness.
     
  13. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    If happiness came from choosing what is fun, easy, and simple, beggars would ride. :)
     
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  14. David612

    David612 Registered User

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    Monetary wealth and happiness aren’t related, happiness is entirely a state of mind.
     
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  15. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

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    In the first degree lecture I learned, one of our virtues is planning and acting with our future happiness in mind. Fun is part of that. Easy doesn't come into it at all. And simple is the goal of geniuses not something most of us can even plan for,
     
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  16. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    I believe that it to strong a statement to say that happiness and wealth "aren't related". For me one element of happiness is my degree of "freedom from worry". In my experience, money does not create happiness, but if used correctly it can assist happiness.
     
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  17. Bloke

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    ......and its absence can sure make things tricky in this modern western world... :D
     
  18. LK600

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    I found that regardless of how much money you have, it's never enough at the time (spending moves on a sliding scale to accommodate the increase in funds). At this point in time, I have more money than I ever had in my life, and I can say this... in many respects, I miss the times when I was dirt poor.
     
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  19. CLewey44

    CLewey44 Registered User

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    Gosh, I don't miss it but it's funny how you can get by and have no worries when the only money you have to your name is the pile of change on your dresser. That was me circa 2001-2003 lol. I was so broke one day, (waiting tables), I had to close my bank account that had the minimum $25 in it. These people charged me a $10 'closing fee' and I walked away with 15 bucks. Unreal. Thank God for the U.S. Air Force.
     
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  20. Glen Cook

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    I've been rich and unhappy. I've been poor and unhappy. Rich and unhappy is better. But it is still unhappy. I've seen those with comparative monetary wealth take their lives. I've seen monetarily wealthy folk suffering from a poverty of affection.

    OTOH, as Brother Doug indicated, I've seen those so desperately financially impoverished that happiness simply cannot be found.
     
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