Challenges on the street

[Ripcord22A]

Exactly how it is in Georgia. They opened on the third as normal, lowered to 1 and 2 for my initiation and passing, I left after those degrees, and they went back up to 3 for closing.

was a brother assigned to you to walk out with you and sit with you and what not till it was closed? Also did you get to stay in lodge while the rest of the business was done or as soon as the lec was complete you had to leave?

 

[Derinique Kendrick]

was a brother assigned to you to walk out with you and sit with you and what not till it was closed? Also did you get to stay in lodge while the rest of the business was done or as soon as the lec was complete you had to leave?

I was instructed to come in and stay downstairs until a brother came down to get me. The tiler was the one who came downstairs to get me when they were done with the opening. I retired from the lodge after the degrees and lectures. I got my date as to when I was expected back for proficiency and next degree and after that I was out the door.

 

[Ripcord22A]

I was instructed to come in and stay downstairs until a brother came down to get me. The tiler was the one who came downstairs to get me when they were done with the opening. I retired from the lodge after the degrees and lectures. I got my date as to when I was expected back for proficiency and next degree and after that I was out the door.

Thats crazy to me. In both my Jurisdictions lodge can be opened and work done on all 3 degrees. Also from the moment a candidate walks through the door on degree night he is not left alon till he is placed in the prep room for the chamber of reflection. Then after the degree hes not alone till he leaves the building with everyone else.

 

[MRichard]

Lastly in Florida and five other Deep South " states all of Prince Hall is still considered clandestine, and no I was not being rude I was trying to point to the new name given to an EA in most jurisdictions, but thanks you made me update my profile. WWEA, SMIB!!!

There are nine states (LA, MS, TN, WV, FL, GA, AL, AR, & SC) that don't recognize PHA grand lodges. I don't know if they consider PHA clandestine in all nine states. Those PHA grand lodges are regular but unrecognized regardless how a grand lodge considers them. Each grand lodge is sovereign so they can basically make up their own rules on recognition to some extent when recognizing other grand lodges.

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

There are nine states (LA, MS, TN, WV, FL, GA, AL, AR, & SC) that don't recognize PHA grand lodges. I don't know if they consider PHA clandestine in all nine states. Those PHA grand lodges are regular but unrecognized regardless how a grand lodge considers them. Each grand lodge is sovereign so they can basically make up their own rules on recognition to some extent when recognizing other grand lodges.

I thought West Virginia decided to recognize PHA ?

 

[acjohnson53]

That's how it's done, there are know profanes in the Lodge until the Lodge is lowered to that degree they are working on...

 

[MRichard]

I thought West Virginia decided to recognize PHA ?

I doubt it.

 

[Derinique Kendrick]

Thats crazy to me. In both my Jurisdictions lodge can be opened and work done on all 3 degrees. Also from the moment a candidate walks through the door on degree night he is not left alon till he is placed in the prep room for the chamber of reflection. Then after the degree hes not alone till he leaves the building with everyone else.

I guess they do it that way to make sure the candidate doesn't get more than they are supposed to get at that time.

 

[BroBook]

yes I know that there was no internet in 1984. Hence why i said anyone could be douped.

New name for EAs? Never heard anything but EA. can you elaborate.

also WWEA? not familar with that one....

Again I am sorry for coming accross as i did!

No problem my brother, caution, world without end amen!!!

 

[Ripcord22A]

EAs are being called Caustions now?

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

No problem my brother, caution, world without end amen!!!

Did for forget your obligation ????? (⊙＿⊙)

 

[Bloke]

EAs are being called Caustions now?

Never heard of read that...

 

[BroBook]

Did I drop something?

 

[dfreybur]

I thought West Virginia decided to recognize PHA ?

Involved story. Edict, revolution by the next cycle of grand line officers, eventual expulsion of the edicting PGM. Very much an embarassment to all involved. Web search for PGM Haas.

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

Involved story. Edict, revolution by the next cycle of grand line officers, eventual expulsion of the edicting PGM. Very much an embarassment to all involved. Web search for PGM Haas.

I'm not understanding, so are they recognized or not ?

 

[MRichard]

I'm not understanding, so are they recognized or not ?

They are one of the states that don't recognize PHA as I mentioned earlier.

 

[Bill Lins]

I am curious.....if you have a proficiency that needs to be turned in you make the BRO wait outside till the lodge is opened and then lowered and then make him leave after his proficiency? Also so you make the candidate leave after the degree is completed but before lodge is closed?

GLoTX did the same until 2007- all Lodges opened on the 3rd Degree and called down for degree work & proficiencies. All other business was done in a MM Lodge only.

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

They are one of the states that don't recognize PHA as I mentioned earlier.

Yes but I read an article and spoke with some brothers that said they had received recognition. I'll do more research. Maybe it was up for discussion.

 

[MRichard]

Yes but I read an article and spoke with some brothers that said they had received recognition. I'll do more research. Maybe it was up for discussion.

I think it would have made the masonic news if it happened. Haven't heard anything. But you never know.

 

[Dontrell Stroman]

I think it would have made the masonic news if it happened. Haven't heard anything. But you never know.

Yes your right. Again, I'll look into it more. I know for most it was a shocker for NC.