E.A.P.?

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  1. Bloke

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    Does anyone know what it stands for ?

    It appears in old texts like;

    ENTERED APPRENTICES DEGREE.

    Q. “Where stands the senior E.A.P.? …
    A, In the West-
    Q. What is his business ? …
    A. To hear and receive instructions, and welcome strange Brothers-
    Q. Where stands the junior E.A.P.? …
    A. In the north-
    Q. What is his business? …
     
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  2. Elexir

    Elexir Registered User

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    Seems to be some sort of ritual version.
    Only thing Ive seem is that it is another shortform of EA.
    Where is it from?
     
  3. Bloke

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    I am thinking the same way. My best guess, which is not a good one, is the p is replacing f as it does in old printing and manuscripts and it's actually '"eaf"

    Here's a sample I just googled http://www.brad.ac.uk/webofhiram/?section=lectures_craft&page=OliverLec.html
     
  4. Bloke

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    And thanks for helping !
     
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  6. Bloke

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    Freemasons I think..
     
  7. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    You might laugh but if it's old enough and the person who wrote couldn't spell my mind goes to Entered A Prentence (EAP). I fully admit this could be terribly wrong.
     
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  8. Bloke

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    Maybe... I not laughing :)
     
  9. Warrior1256

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    Good theory actually IMHO.
     
  10. Brother_Steve

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    Ph used to be the F sound in Greek (Phi)

    I wonder if the book is old enough that the P is shorthand for Ph and it was (ph)reemason?
     
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  11. Brother_Steve

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    also, it would be interesting to know who/where the book came from.

    Latin translations and germanic translations yield different results.

    I'm not a linguist. I was first lead to PH = F based on my education in Geodetics and Geodesy. The rest is google.
     
  12. Bloke

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    I've seen the text several times and it's represented as being very old but not sure of the exact original source...
     
  13. Brother_Steve

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    Read this. It says what the eap does.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=AFE2AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=Where+stands+the+senior+E.A.P&source=bl&ots=P1SvZNjdec&sig=N6nogYjgqcKr_NdcNtoU5waD_PY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_0O6G78_UAhXJdT4KHZPkBCAQ6AEILTAC#v=onepage&q=Where stands the senior E.A.P&f=false

    You can dl the book and search it for eap. The more I read, the more I am thinking that P refers to a point or officer place within the lodge which is occupied by an entered apprentice.
     
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  14. Bloke

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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts Bro Steve and the book.
     

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