Having your light taken

Discussion in 'Prince Hall Freemasonry' started by mrpierce17, Sep 23, 2014.

  1. oldjumpmaster

    oldjumpmaster Registered User

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    Unfortunately, this was a common theme in many of the Military Lodges in Europe. It deals with catechism and a question and answer session. For instance, if an individual would place a Masonic emblem on their car it was not unusual for brothers to be met with examination by an individual using their hand to cover up the emblem while receiving answers to their questions. If answered correctly they would uncover their “light” or emblem, if they could not answer the questions it was common that the emblem would be removed from the car. Hence, “protecting” your light. Basically, if you cannot pass an examination you should study and gain proficiency before displaying masonic emblems. Though many brothers attempted to utilize this method as a form of forcing proficiency, regrettably, it sometimes left a bad taste in an individual’s mouth.
     
  2. Warrior1256

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    As I have said before, if someone that I have never laid eyes on before starts asking me questions that will require me to divulge lawful, Masonic information I'd refuse to do so. If that person then decided that because of my refusal that they were going to "take" my personal property....they would have a really big, and probably painful, problem.
     
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  3. Glen Cook

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    Should that happen to me on base, their CO and I would be having a word.
     
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  4. Warrior1256

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    Exactly. I believe that under the UCMJ, as well as in civilian law, this would be called THEFT.
     
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  5. oldjumpmaster

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    I don’t believe it ever got to the level of violence or talking with anyone’s command. Not sure of your familiarity of military lodges, however, a majority of the brothers are acquainted with one another due to the proximity. Again, not condoning this action or agreeing with the reasoning, just sharing some insight on what I’ve witnessed many years ago in Germany.
     
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  6. Warrior1256

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    Understood. It's just that I've seen this topic discussed many times on this forum and it just burns me up that someone would think that they have the right to be judge and jury and simply take the property of someone else. Lol....I guess that you could say that this is a pet peeve of mine.
     
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  7. oldjumpmaster

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    Understood, now that I know what your PP is I'll make sure to rehash this occasionally to keep you on your toes .
     
  8. Warrior1256

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    Lol, sounds like a plan!
     
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  9. Ripcord22A

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    Spoken like a CSM...."Hey ya know what Joe hates?...sweeping the motor pool.....lets make them do that, every week, maybe even twice a week!"....lol

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  10. oldjumpmaster

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    They only hate it if you let them hate it. Besides there is nothing like a clean motor pool floor. They’ll appreciate you for it later.
     
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  11. hwood

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    This makes me sick to think a brother would do this to another brother. I think some people have forgotten what it means to be a true Mason.
    I for one would only offer you my hand outside a recognized lodge.


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  12. Warrior1256

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    Lol!!!
     
  13. Warrior1256

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    Exactly!
     
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  14. oldjumpmaster

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    Warrior1256, just when you thought you had it put to bed! Your PP is brought to the surface again. It wasn't even me this time. Someone else is keeping you on your toes! Lol
     
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  15. goomba

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    As a Mason I am in the search of light.

    If that search (spiritual or physical) is attained from taking light from another I do not wish to receive that light. If anyone wishes to wear something they are free to do so. The greatest light a brother can have is within and we should strive to help that light grow. I could not imagine using my "superior" "knowledge" to take away from a "lesser" brother.

    Story time from Uncle Goomba:

    While on active duty (US Army) 1SG Green* was approached by SFC Brown. SFC Brown instantly went to parade rest an then addressed 1SG Green. This was odd and 1SG Green was known for not requiring anyone to stand at parade rest. He knew he was a 1SG. When SFC Brown walked away 1SG Green said "When SPC Green reported for duty at Fort Maroon SGT Brown treated him like crap. Now SFC Brown knows to always address 1SG Green as 1SG and to always stand at parade rest. NCO's look to your left. Tomorrow that Soldier may be on your right."

    Thus ends the story.

    *names have been changed to protect the innocent lol

    For those of you who have never served I'll give a simple break down. In a platoon formation the squad leaders stand at the far right and individuals to their left are by seniority. Green was Brown's subordinate at one point. However, Green was squared away and eventually outranked Brown.

    The Mason you take from today may be your Worshipful Master, Grand Master, or the one to come to your aid tomorrow. We are builders and we are brothers!

    Crazy long ass rant over.
     
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  16. Warrior1256

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    Yeah, I can handle it...lol.
    Absolutely!
     

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