Wrong answer no disrespect or rather not what is needed. God bless!
Bro.TL Wilson
Clarence C. Kittrell #149(PHA)
Philadelphia, PA
MWPHGL Jurisdiction of PA
4301 N. Broad st.
Phila., PA
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Bro Bupton52 what does whefe mean?? I think tldubb did ask him that if u read the previous post and his answer was wrong
How Should Masons Meet /G\
Are both of you Brothers (Bupton52 & tldubb) in PA?
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Another question I have been blessed to travel around the world and attend several Lodges and see many ceremonies. Who has the right or the knowledge to declare someone clandestine? Mason the measure of the man. /G\ Once the simple question is asked. Are you off or from? that normally ends all rhetoric. I have a very good friend who took the so called normal and recognized path. Then he was sent overseas and went to another body that some would consider clandestine. But the funny thing is his Masonic knowledge bloomed and progressed to great levels. So that's when I asked the question is the word Clandestine just a another way to promote Masonic Racism? In reality I have text from the late 1800s and early 1900s stating PHA as Clandestine. So with that being said who really has the power or knowledge to put that term on a Masonic body.? One thing I have learned in my journey through life is that successful people and groups never wait for someone to give them the right to exist and grow.
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My lodge was the mother lodge of two others way back when horses and buggies used to get the men to the meetings.
The items that have plagued the future of Masonry are the self inflicted segregation and the arrogance of brothers once they are raised. Another item is the single affiliation rule that has stunted dual recognition in many states. Why is it so hard to address these common road blocks that have driving rosters down and membership to all time lows in the past 50 years. Lodges may have 100 plus on the roster but only have 20 or so active members and out of the 20 only 12 are paying dues. This is not only a PHA issue. As I stated earlier I have friends in other bodies and all,parts of the USA and they are facing and dealing with the same issues. For some of us we are what people call global and cutting edge so we are always looking for better ways to perfect our craft. It simply amazes me that some bodies in Masonry really think it's their way only everyone else is wrong or Clandestine. The weird thing is the same ones that are claiming they are the legit one, were thought of as clandestine just 200 years ago. So in essence how can someone promote the same hate and ignorance that was used against them previously ? I try to comment with respect and honor if any of my words hurt a fellow brethren I apologize that is not the purpose at all. I come on the Level and I leave on the square and I am always focused on the trowel to smooth out brotherly love. /G\
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Bupton52,two words cowan and eavesdropper!!
How Should Masons Meet /G\
Again what would you consider spurious ? I have documents that would claim PH is spurious so my point is what one may consider clandestine today just may be main stream tomorrow just like the history of PH. And when you say PH are you speaking for PHA or PHO ? And I say this with respect and genuine concern.
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Again what would you consider spurious ? I have documents that would claim PH is spurious so my point is what one may consider clandestine today just may be main stream tomorrow just like the history of PH. And when you say PH are you speaking for PHA or PHO ? And I say this with respect and genuine concern.
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I Understand your view totally it is the mainstream view, what I was posing is be careful of what we label because if you look at the history of some bodies they were plagued with the same rhetoric. I respect your view let me say that first I have a tendency from youth to looks at all angles.
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