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That is beautiful. Thank you Brother
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That is beautiful. Thank you Brother
What does John 14:6 mean to you?
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Should we twist that verse in order to fit our own agenda? If you truly believe in the teachings of Christ, then you must accept that he is the only way to Salvation. I have no problem respecting someones beliefs, but not at the expense of downplaying my own, nor would I except a Brother of another faith to do so.
I grow tired of threads such as this. You can spend a good 15 minutes searching through thousands of posts and not one is critical or questions the validity of other faiths, except Christianity. Most everyone on this forum has an open mind, but good grief.
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Gnostic means to know. So, if we know, what is faith for?
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Well, the Muslims take it on the chin on a regular basis.
But to your question about John 14:6- I believe Jesus is saying his teachings are the guide to truth. The conflict is between those who see the Bible as being the literal word of God and those who cant see a a whole document coming down through he ages and languages and still be the literal word of God. If you want to believe that you should read it in the original language and understand what it literally means. Even the Great Masonic Pastors like Newton and Peal didn't think the Bible was completely literal. As long as theology is discussed on this forum, this debate will go on and on.
"In my book different doesn't mean wrong. Judge not." Blake you choose to be offended by that? Really?
Christians, you just can't feed them to the lions anymore!
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Sirius
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The terms can actually almost be synonymous. Gnosis is more of a process whereas faith is a constant. There is some hair splitting to be done. Regardless, there is no process without faith. So faith is essential.
Sirius
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And that perfectly good for you. The larger point was this, Christianity doesn't have the market cornered on truth. It's not OK, the think you're religion makes you just a little bit better than everyone else. Thats the problem Urban II ran into. He said it was better so go on a Crusade, you'll be OK because your faith is better than the infidels.
I think that believing what Ubran did wrong is twist the point of the bible into a convenient way until it resembled in no way the original meaning,
but i think what blake is saying, that to believe Christianity at all, you must also believe that Christianity does have the market cornered.
Can you believe the statement about "no way except through me" is correct while still having a fulfilling relationship with Christ? I believe the easy, straight-forward answer is no, you can't.
On a personal level, I've taken the even easier route and just ignored the question altogether.
but i think what blake is saying, that to believe Christianity at all, you must also believe that Christianity does have the market cornered.
Can you believe the statement about "no way except through me" is correct while still having a fulfilling relationship with Christ? I believe the easy, straight-forward answer is no, you can't.
On a personal level, I've taken the even easier route and just ignored the question altogether.
Before I post on the subject I wanted to address the beating of a dead horse. I believe none of us are trying to defeat Christianity or any religion I feel we are trying to learn. Although the way this is sometimes articulated can sound brass every single one of us are looking for that next piece of wisdom that will change our lives and if we cannot discuss how we feel so others can express their wisdom on the subject to learn from than we are done for. We have to also realize Christianity is about all we know in the USA so if an attack goes toward organized religion our examples are usually based from what we have experienced and know of. Further more you also have to realize attacking something is a reaction of misunderstanding and is human nature which we cannot punish or get upset about this is when our whispering in the ear comes into play. Funny thing is though most will not listen to the whisper until the lesson hits them in the face and draws spiritual blood. Allot of how I look at things in life have changed due to this site and I hope we can forgive each other of our ignorances and downfalls to truly aid each other in our reformations.
+1.
We need an applauding emoticon. j/k
it's along the lines of jesus saying abraham knew him to the jews. they couldn't believe in one part but not the other. there are whole "sermon-series" on that one.
Sirius
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with Elvis accent, "thank you, thank you very much".
Nate Riley
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What does John 14:6 mean to you?
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Should we twist that verse in order to fit our own agenda? If you truly believe in the teachings of Christ, then you must accept that he is the only way to Salvation. I have no problem respecting someones beliefs, but not at the expense of downplaying my own, nor would I except a Brother of another faith to do so.
I grow tired of threads such as this. You can spend a good 15 minutes searching through thousands of posts and not one is critical or questions the validity of other faiths, except Christianity. Most everyone on this forum has an open mind, but good grief.
I agree.
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