If you were, what would you do?

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by Howard Giang, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. David612

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    If you can’t obey simple traffic laws how can we expect you to preambulate correctly!

    I doubt it will be an issue bud, it’s actual crime they are looking for.
     
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  2. Andy Fracica

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    Nobody cares about parking tickets or speeding tickets. Felonies, that's a different story but if you have stayed out of trouble for 20 years... We have one brother that had a felony conviction in his younger days but kept his record clean, served his time, paid restitution to his victim and has become a upstanding citizen He has been a productive member of the community for the last 25 years. We accepted him into our lodge as a brother. In our jurisdiction it is up to the lodge to decide where a felony is involved.

    I think you are worrying yourself to death over this and while it is important, the lodge probably wants you as much as you want to be part of the lodge.

    Just relax and enjoy the journey.
     
  3. Warrior1256

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    Very possible. The Lodge would not want to be the cause of marital strife.
    Absolutely!
    Same here.
     
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  4. Warrior1256

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    Very good advice.
     
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  5. Warrior1256

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    Here in Kentucky it is prefered that the wife be present so that any of her questions can be answered and make sure that she has not objections to her husband joining.
     
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  6. Glen Cook

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    That is the usual reason given for the practice. I wonder when it started.

    Personally, my wife and I are a little more independent in our relationship, and typically would not consult on issues. Similarly, I had not thought to inform the fraternity as to how my wife feels on various issues. The two relationships are separate. Yes, I understand that a spouse’s objections to the fraternity would have an impact the member’s participation.
     
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  7. Glen Cook

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    And men. And Masons. :(
     
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  8. Howard Giang

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    I have a clean driving record, and this parking ticket that I contested was because I was not violated a simple traffic laws, but unfortunately it is considered criminal history. Considering getting high voltage shock every time I got a parking ticket, I am sure I will perambulate correctly. :D

    http://www.freemason.org/discoverMasonry/applicantInformation.htm
     
  9. Howard Giang

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    I have never been in jail/prison. For my entire life, I have clean record with high credit score except a parking ticket (a few). :(

    http://www.freemason.org/discoverMasonry/applicantInformation.htm
     
  10. Glen Cook

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  11. David612

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    Don’t worry about menial things like that bud, masons are just people too, people TRYING to be better, with varying degrees of success.

    *edit: varying degrees of trying too.


    Please let us know how your progress towards joint the craft is going and if I can help in any way just flick me a message.
     
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  12. Howard Giang

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    "Criminal history - An applicant’s character is the most important factor in consideration for membership. Men who have pled guilty or no contest or have been convicted of a crime of moral turpitude are not eligible for membership. This includes crimes committed against property, people, or government, such as, but not limited to, intent to defraud, intent to harm a person or thing, or intent to take a thing unlawfully. Minor traffic violations include such offenses as parking and speeding tickets.

    A criminal background check, including civil and criminal records, is conducted for each application for degrees as well as applications for affiliation from members of other jurisdictions."

    Because I had a contested parking ticket, so I am just pointing out that this Lodge does consider parking ticket as part of a criminal history, but I have never thought of that. I can agree that it can be a part of a driving history. "An applicant’s character is the most important factor in consideration for membership."
     
  13. Howard Giang

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    Thanks. I like the way you have a positive outlook.:)
     
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  14. CLewey44

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    Yeah, you're a no-go with a parking ticket....just kidding. Howard, you're fine if what you say is true. Do you believe in a higher power or Supreme Being? Don't worry about parking tickets and things like that. Get in there and petition for a lodge. Have you started visiting with them yet?
     
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  15. David612

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    Haha I try :)
    Personally what I’m discovering as a new mason is that while we can sit here and discuss the esoterics, memorisation or degree kudos it’s all for naught if you aren’t applying the lessons of freemasonry to your life and genuinely improving, never forget why you got involved.
     
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  16. Glen Cook

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    Son, if —paid— parking tickets and speeding tickets were a disqualification, the fraternity would have closed its doors already.
     
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  17. Andy Fracica

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    Most people who have driven and parked a car have received a parking ticket or even a speeding ticket at one time or another during their life. Parking tickets and speeding tickets are just revenue generating tools for governments.
     
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  18. CLewey44

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    I'm not even sure if a DUI would get you disqual'd. Especially if it happened in your younger days.
     
  19. Howard Giang

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    :):)
    Laughing with you. :) Thanks for being friendly CLewey44. Yes, I am not an atheist. We might be differed on the interpretation of higher power and Sumpreme Being. Spiritually and theoretically, not only believing in God but also worshiping in God. Practically, I might not worship God correctly or not worship God enough. No, I have not walked into a Lodge in term of petitioning. I have been had luncheons in a Masonic Temple for over 30 times. For a Local Lodge, I had only parked my car across the street and looked at the building. No parking ticket for parking across the street though. :) Happy New Year! Best Wishes for everyone here especially those that are thinking of me.
     
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  20. Howard Giang

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    :p Happy New Year!
     
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