One black ball?

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Mac, Jul 19, 2011.

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Should one black ball be all it takes to reject a candidate?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. MaineMason

    MaineMason Registered User

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    I know many Masons who are in AA. Just sayin'.
     
  2. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    Excellent point sir.
     
  3. admarcus1

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    Sounds like a lodge to be proud of.
     
  4. admarcus1

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    My experience is that bigots rarely wear their bigotry on their sleeves, especially as it becomes less and less socially acceptable. It's easy to recognize an Archie Bunker (and there I am dating myself), but characters like that are relics, though we occasionally see an exception on the news.

    I think that in the end I would come down on the side of one black ball, though I think there are valid reasons to be concerned about it. I do think we need to be self critical and be on guard against our own ingrained prejudices, and I hope that as Masons, we are committed to doing that. We cannot work toward becoming perfect ashlars if we ignore the rough edges and imperfections, no matter how subtle.
     
  5. Pete Ramboldt

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    I've seen the S/C ring on Carrol O'conners hand several times in the TV show "In the heat of the Night",
    but never saw it while he played Archie Bunker. (Just an interesting thought)
     
  6. Warrior1256

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    I read that O'Conner wore this ring as a prop after he became a sheriff on the show due to his belief that most southern sheriffs were Masons. I still support the one black ball rule as it is here in Kentucky.
     
  7. Rifleman1776

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    I am still learning the (new to me) ways of Missouri Lodges. We hand voted to accept two petitions for the degrees at last meeting. Hard for a bigot to hide doing it that way.
     
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  8. MarkR

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    I think that the good that can be done by keeping bigots from hiding is far outweighed by the loss of a secret ballot.
     
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  9. Warrior1256

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    I have to disagree with you on this one brother. For many reasons already mentioned I still think that the secret ballot is the way to go. If a brother black balls someone because of their race, religion, etc. then they have to live with themselves and shame on them.
     
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  10. Bill Lins

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    Bro. Warrior, you might want to go back & re-read Bro. MarkR's post.
     
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  11. MarkR

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    Thank you. What I said is that the secret ballot is more important.
     
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  12. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 Site Benefactor

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    I apologize brother, I misunderstood your post. My fault.
     
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  13. Warrior1256

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    Thanks for pointing this out to me brother. My bad. I totally misunderstood the post.
     
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