Plates are available.

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by relapse98, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    Bro. Stewart,
    Are these plates restricted to GLoTX members or can PHA purchase them as well?
     
  2. MikeMay

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    Anyone can purchase the plates.
     
  3. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    Thats interesting to know that just anyone can purchase these. My concern is if irregular masons can purchase them. In certain states you actually have to fill out a form proving membership or other criteria before obtaining one. It sort of defeats the purpose if just anyone can get them. Im not against them its just they seem to be a legit form of representation approved by the state which should regulate them to regular masons otherwise you risk sitting at a traffic light with two vehicles that have masonic plates. One irregular the other regular. Regalia and other emblems can be bought freely I dont think these should be. Only my humble opinion no disrespect to anyone.
     
  4. Beathard

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    You can buy pins, rings, ties, t-shirts and anything else you want on the Internet. Recognition is through other means for a reason.
     
  5. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    True, just thought maybe these would be regulated somehow.
     
  6. kosei

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    PHA can purchase them but only the GLoTX recieves a portion of the proceeds while the MWPHGLoTX recieves nothing
     
  7. Michaelstedman81

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    I do agree with this actually. I know that there are certain plates in Texas that you have to show documentation of membership to be able to get the special kind of plates, and I was wondering why the GLoT didn't try to implement any kind of regulation or at least request them. Sort of like the Operation Iraqi Freedom plates. You have to show that you were deployed to that theater to be eligible to recieve those plates. But, Bro. Beathard made a really good point about recognition being through other means. We all know if we are regular or not, and that is what matters.

    Actually, Bro. Beathard if you are reading this, do you know if GLoT did try to request some sort of regulating measures on purchasing of the plates but were denied by the state, or no?
     
  8. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    Thats cool I dont mind that all. It will benefit the brotherhood.
     
  9. Michaelstedman81

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    Ah, Geez. I just read what I typed and kind of left something out that could misrepresent my feelings on another related matter. I do think that there should have been some regulating in place to keep some regular Joe Blow that likes the look of the Masonic plates from getting one even though he is not a member. I didn't mean anything at all about keeping our PH Brethern from getting them. I was just referring to random people that aren't Masons at all. I hope that nobody took offense to what I said, as I didn't relay the information correctly. My bad.
     
  10. Brent Heilman

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    I know in Oklahoma that if you order the Masonic license plate you have to show proof of affiliation like a dues card. It is stated plainly in the application for that particular plate and also any of the other plates for the military.
     
  11. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    Brother no apologies needed. I didnt read it like that at all. I know where you are coming from. Much love bruh!
     
  12. Ashlar

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    Ky is the same way , Dues card must be provided to purchase a Masonic Plate . DD-214 to get a Veterans Tag (which is what I have , they are only $5 for Vet's) .
     
  13. Brent Heilman

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    I think that is the only common sense thing to do. Just as we don't people running around with a plate that proclaims them to be a vet or a disabled vet, we certainly don't want it with a Mason's tag. That can lead to all kinds of bad things.
     
  14. Seqenenre Tao

    Seqenenre Tao Registered User

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    Thats what my first thought was.
     
  15. Brent Heilman

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    I wasn't really sure if the State of Oklahoma would have that requirement or not. So because of this thread it had my curiosity peaked and I went to the Oklahoma Tax Commission website to see. If you look at the requirements laid forth in the application it clearly states it there. I don't see why Texas didn't do the same sort of thing. It really shows a lack of common sense when any person off the street can get a tag such as this one and slap it on their vehicle and try to proclaim affiliation.
     
  16. Bro. Stewart P.M.

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    Brothers, the bottom line is this: I personally do not care what the "attempt" at affiliation is. My modes of recognition do not include vehicle plates.

    I know that my thought is pretty straight forward, but I believe that the GLoTX is pretty straight forward as well pertaining to the same subject. According to protocol, a Brother can not vouch for another unless they have actually sat in Lodge with the person. I know that within the JD of the GLoTX the verification process is fairly simplified, however do you honestly believe that the GLoTX is going to allow some "button pusher" at the tax office to determine the validity of a purchaser for one of these specialty plates?? The answer is no. Do you think that anyone connected with the GLoTX is going to volunteer their personal time to validate any one persons purchase?? The answer is no.

    A little common sense is required here. The GLoTX makes money off of the purchase and continued registration of said plates, no matter "who" purchases them. I personally have a very hard time believing that anyone outside of our fraternity will go through the motions of purchasing these plates without being a member of the Masonic Fraternity, Regular, PHA or not. I would never purchase a Veteran or Disabled plate because I represent neither regardless of my pre-qualifications.
     
  17. Brent Heilman

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    I agree that most who get the plates will be Masons there could also be others that might. Take the thread I recently posted about Jay-Z. Here in Oklahoma when you turn in the application for the plate at the tag office that is when your credentials are checked. It takes very little time to verify and here where I live the tag agents have been here as ling as I can remember. I don't know if our GL gets a portion of the proceeds from the sale of the plate or not. I don't see too many of them. I had to go online to see what they looked like. I'm glad Texas has it available for you guys there. All I was trying to say is that in my mind it just seemed a little silly to hand out plates for an organization to anyone without regard to affiliation.

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  18. M.M.Wood

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    Great insight Bro. Stewart.
     
  19. CHarris

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    I think it's a good way to get the word out that we are still here and possibly encourage some young men seeking light to ask what it means to be a mason. I know in my experience at least I would never have asked about masonry if I had not continued to see the S&C everywhere, even on the tail light lenses. So in my opinion only and being very young in my Masonic journey, if someone or anyone wants to have the plates, seems like free advertising to me and a way the GLoT can make a little money at the same time. You never know we might just receive another good man or brother in our fine fraternity.
     
  20. THemenway

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    Just wondering, Would it be acceptable if an EA or FC got the plates on their vehicle?
     

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