Preparing for the East

Discussion in 'Officers of the Lodge' started by SDullinger, Jul 13, 2017.

  1. SDullinger

    SDullinger Registered User

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    Brethren,

    I'm a sitting SW and I'm confident that I will be nominated to sit in the East starting in January.

    We have gone dark for the summer allowing me only 4 stated meetings before this year is over.

    I've been planning out many of the details of what I hope to accomplish in 2018 and now find myself needing input from the rest of the lodge in order to move forward.

    Is it improper for me to 'assume' I'll be WM next year?

    Is it too early to ask the Brethren which if any office they'd be interested in during my term?

    Thank you.
     
  2. BullDozer Harrell

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    I guess the only way for me to begin is by asking you what makes you feel confident about ascending to the Eastern Chair? How will your stewardship report as SW look? What have you accomplished during your tenure?

    Of course, my questions are rhetorical here. You need just reflect on your answers privately.
     
  3. JamestheJust

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    >Is it too early to ask the Brethren which if any office they'd be interested in during my term?

    This is always a slightly sensitive issue but I have no doubt that your lodge is well used to this.

    Just approach the relevant brethren and say: If I am elected WM would you like to have an office? If so what do you have in mind?
     
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  4. Warrior1256

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    It is never too early to start to think about what should be done to improve the lodge no matter who assumes the Eastern Chair. This way you will have your answer if you are fortunate enough to be elected WM
     
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  5. BullDozer Harrell

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    It's great when you start to draft your WM's Trestleboard for the next seat while you're still in the West. You won't believe the number of Line Officers who don't look ahead to the next seat of responsibility. Neither do they reach back to guide the junior line of progression.

    It seems like all that matters is being in the seat they're currently occupying. It's their accomplishment to-date.

    Unfortunately I've experienced this selfish drive within my own lodge. I've witnessed one PM breeze through the line and sucked in his new seat just as he sucked in the previous one. But he was elected faithfully each year by the lodge and eventually made it to the East.

    The Brother had no clue whatsoever in my opinion about what to do as our Lodge's man of authority. He's a good guy so don't get me wrong. But there's no way in the world that as WM of a subordinate lodge, a person is still struggling to perform our Opening & Closing ceremonies. (It's the same lines every time and year after year). Also it really sucks when your WM hasn't learned yet how to entertain Motions, Proposals and other routine procedural matters.

    I was dying inside that year I was thinking like, dude you mean to tell me you didn't pay attention to business as you moved through our line? Holy Jesus Christ and Mary Christmas!
     
  6. David Duke

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    At ours and I would assume others we have a line that gets used every year by the junior officers "If tradition prevails".

    When they first get in the line most of them think it is funny that an officer should feel the need to preface a statement about future plans but as they move further along they come to understand that nothing is guaranteed and that their advancement depends on the them showing they are ready to be advanced.

    That being said I commend you on your preparations for the upcoming year. I had the basic framework for my year in the East outlined by the end of my year as JW and refined that when I was SW. If you wait until you are in the East it is too late and you will spend your time reacting to events rather than enjoying the success of your well thought out plans. Remember though to get input from the Past Masters, your junior officers and the membership in general. Your plans should reflect what is best for the Lodge not what you want to see done.


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  7. Bill Lins

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    That happens entirely too often.
     
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  8. Bloke

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    More than the Team, at this early stage, make sure you think about what the Lodge needs to provide and do to prosper. Without disregarding the line of succession, I would also be looking to select and position a team who will support you achieving success.
     
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  9. Warrior1256

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    Precisely!
     
  10. Phil P

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    David is so right on the money as per usual. Might also want to be sure that the other 2 principal officers behind you are preparing as well. When I was in DeMolay back in the 1980s, I started working on my term as Master Councilor as soon as I was elected as Junior Councilor. But in DeMolay, most terms run about 6mos
     
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  11. Carl_in_NH

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    It's up to you to build your line of officers - at least for those who are appointed. Planning ahead and getting buy-in several months in advance is something I highly recommend. I did this, and it has served me well. As stated, it's all contingent upon being elected to the East, and that's how you approach those who would be offered appointments. You're going to be the leader - pick who you want for various positions and gain their buy-in for these appointments. In my jurisdiction, positions like Deacons and Stewards are appointments even though they are part of the progressive line; follow the order of progression whenever possible, and don't disrupt that flow unless there's a profoundly compelling reason to do so. Those Brothers should be expecting to advance, provided they are ready for the responsibility.

    It's worth checking with officers in the progressive line, too - you might get one that has family matters or other issues and is thinking about dropping out of the line, or might prefer not to advance. It's best to know these things well in advance of election so contingencies can be brought into play.

    Lesson one of ascending to the East; never take anything for granted.
     
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  12. Brother_Steve

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    they pay attention to the phone though.
     
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  13. Warrior1256

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    I will be going to the East in my mother lodge in a little over a month. All of our officers from Jr. Stewart to Master are elected. All nominations are complete and now in the hands of the committee. Will be voted on two weeks prior to the installation. Only the Sr. Warden position is contested.
     
  14. Brother_Steve

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    Is that a regular occurrence in that type of format? What about lower chairs or is it understood to be a progressive line with the formality of nominations and elections once you get involved?
     
  15. Warrior1256

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    Anyone can make a nomination before the Nomination Committee and the committee makes the final decision. The people in the chairs will most likely advance unless they "mess up" some how. For example, one of the line officers will be removed this year for missing two thirds of the meetings. This has went on for three years but he kept promising to attend regularly and he was given the benefit of the doubt. No longer.
     
  16. Bloke

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    Congrats - I think this is your firs time in the chair ?

    The two weeks time line - is that normal or specific to your lodge, and I have the same question in relation to this selection committee.

    We generally elect our Masters in open Lodge 2-3 months prior to installation. This allows for planning but is also a requirement. I always want the vote of the lodge not less than 2 months prior - but ideally 3 months to allow planning for the Installation event as per the WME's wishes. We have one today - 6 months in the planning. Tyle at 2 pm (its Saturday here) then dinner with the ladies in a private club in the city. Looking forward to it :)
     
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  17. Warrior1256

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    Thank you Brother. This will be my first time. I am really looking forward to it.
    Yes, this is the norm for us. As I previously stated the line almost always advances with no change except for the Jr. Stewart.
    Our line up will be voted on and announced at the meeting conducted two weeks prior to the induction.
     
  18. Bloke

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    That's quite different to our approach, and our Master makes the call under advice from all team members and PMs as the WM seeks, or does not seek, that advice.
     
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