Secrecy

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by MeCorby, May 18, 2016.

  1. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    Exactly. Washing a hog would be ridiculous so are these "sounds" coming from the sky

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  2. SCStrong

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    I am late to join this thread but:

    I am fairly new to the craft - but I have been happily married for some time. As I understand it, the primary secrets are the modes of recognition, rituals, signs, and tokens. You should be free to ( and should ) discuss what Masonry means to you, why you want to be a part of it, what the ideals/ guiding tenets of Masonry are , and a feel for what being a Mason means, with your significant other. Assure her that nothing in Masonry will conflict with the marriage vows or your familial obligations. ( because they should not ). My suggestion is to be as open as you can without violating your Masonic obligations. I am in the US so, I have not had to deal with any anti- Masonic people in the work place. I am sure they exist, I just haven't dealt ( knowingly) with them. Best of luck to you........ hope my ramblings helped you.
     
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  3. JamestheJust

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    The recognition modes are the secrets. Thus the secrets serve only to protect themselves.

    Fortunately, Masonry being a science, may be discovered by humans of good will that put in the required effort and experiment, regardless of lodge initiation.
     
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  4. JamestheJust

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    Proof indeed. Meanwhile there are hundreds of news reports across the northern hemisphere of such sounds, both from the air and from the ground. I cannot recall such a report from the southern hemisphere.
     
  5. GKA

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    Many brothers that I know choose to keep their Masonic status a secret, that is a personal choice in my opinion and can have both benefits and negative consequences, it depends upon your situation, as for sharing secrets with your spouse, I am inclined to ask why would you want to? The whole secrecy thing concerning Masonry has gotten carried away, the secrecy is really, only a method of showing integrity an commitment to your oath, none of it really warrents such a status, it probably did in the past when Masons were persecuted. Your ability to keep secret that which is required is a statement to your integrity as a person.
     
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  6. JamestheJust

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    If however a brother learned to use 'the working tools" in a "moral sense" then he could measure many moral aspects, for example the level of corruption (trueness) in public officials. Such a skill would need to be kept secret in order to survive.
     
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  7. Bloke

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    So your saying Malcom Turnbull is going to send his crack hit squad after you should you have, and should it become known, you have such knowledge ?

    Come on James....We're in the realm of silly.. or do you think we should be afraid of Johnny Howard climbing through our bedroom window with a knife between his teeth because of our Masonic knowledge ?
     
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  8. Warrior1256

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    As I have come to expect from you Brother these are wise and accurate words. If I can not be trusted to keep secret a hand grip or password then I can not be trusted with the bigger things in life. If I can not keep my Brother's confidence then I lose it.
     
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  9. Ripcord22A

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    Thats exactly whats gonna happen didnt you know!?

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  10. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    Straw man arguments are easy
     
  11. Ripcord22A

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  12. Warrior1256

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    ***snicker snicker***
    Same here....what?
     
  13. Bloke

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  14. LK600

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    James, I think you would need to expand on your comment since I do not believe the "straw man" was intentional but based on a lack of information/explanation.
     
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  15. Warrior1256

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    Agreed!
     
  16. JamestheJust

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    I used only one example of applying the genuine secrets. Taking my one example and applying it in a jocular way to a local political party does not seem to me like a serious response to my proposition.
     
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  17. LK600

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    Granted, but your comment was ambiguous at best. Beyond that, I think the issue some have had (with your comment) is plausibility and or probability.
     
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  18. coachn

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    So are making hyperbolic claims that cannot ever be verified... :cool:
     
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  19. Warrior1256

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    Yep.
     
  20. JamestheJust

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    Masonry is a science. Plausibility is irrelevant. It is a matter of experiment.
     

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