Freemason Lodges in Prison ??

Discussion in 'General Freemasonry Discussion' started by Travelling Man91, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. cemab4y

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    I would rather not deal in hypotheticals. The fact is, that any group can meet, and call themselves "Masonic". The S&C logo is NOT copyrighted. I know a female freemason who lives in northern VA. There is a co-ed lodge in communist Cuba. There are 5 (five) Grand lodges in France (at last count). There are "lodges" that admit atheists.

    These groups have been around for many years, and they do not detract anything (IMHO) from legitimate, recognized, regular Masonry. I say let them have their meetings, and let them practice the brotherly (and sisterly) love, relief and truth.

    Legitimate, recognized Freemasonry, does not a monopoly on these virtues.
     
  2. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    And that is -- The Problem!
     
  3. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    The point of my question about a clandestine lodge claiming to have the genuine secrets is:

    - Would the GAOTU agree that a GL without the genuine secrets should have exclusive jurisdiction over Masons in that territory?
     
  4. cemab4y

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    Not necessarily. Please read:

    The United States Patent Office took note of this in 1873. It told a flour manufacturer, and the world. ‘This device, so commonly worn and employed by Masons, has an established mystic significance, universally recognized as existing, whether comprehended by all or not, is not material to this issue. In view of the magnitude of the Masonic organization, it is impossible to divest its symbols, or at least this particular symbol—perhaps the best known of all—of its ordinary significance, wherever displayed." The manufacturer was denied the use of the Square and Compasses as a trade-mark.” (Reference: Allen E. Roberts; “The Craft and its Symbols: Opening the Door to Masonic Symbolism” pg. 12).

    The fact that the S&C cannot be copyrighted, enables all of the manufacturers to design the belt buckles, ballcaps, etc.
     
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  5. Ressam

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    Thanks!
     
  6. Glen Cook

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    Actually, some of them do detract from Regular Freemasonry, deceiving their members as to their regularity.

    What is the co-ed Lodge in Cuba?
     
  7. Travelling Man91

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    Can someone who has sat in both PHA and other regular Masonic lodges say if the signs are the same ?
     
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  8. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    In this community? I would not be comfortable in doing so.
     
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  9. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Well a brother has already stated that they were the same in other lodges. I am a mason and in no way would I ever ask a brother to violate their obligation. I don't see answering that question any different than a brother saying its the same in other regular lodges
     
  10. JamestheJust

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    Any offers?
     
  11. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    I usually question such posts but I will pass on this one.
     
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  12. Ressam

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    To answer that question -- we have to decide who is the -- GAOTU.
    Cause -- it varies & depends on the freemason's "confession", IMHO. :rolleyes:
     
  13. NY.Light.II

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    Or if there is a GAOTU.
     
  14. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    If you don't believe in the GAOTU, then you shouldn't be or ever become a freemason. It's quite simple.
     
  15. SeeKer.mm

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    Doesn't get any more simple....
     
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  16. NY.Light.II

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    To be clear, I believe in a GAOTU. The comment was glib, although I don't think it was communicated correctly over text to read that way. Consider it retracted.
     
  17. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    I guess the question is just too hard.
     
  18. Ripcord22A

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    Why would the GAOTU bother him/herself with such things?
     
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  19. JamestheJust

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    Why would the GAOTU bother with Freemasonry at all?
     
  20. MRichard

    MRichard Mark A. Ri'chard Premium Member

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    Kinda like, what grand lodge do you belong to?
     
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