"MWPHGLofOK is recognized by all US PHA jurisdictions and is thus regular -"
dont get me wrong brother, its already a known fact that all PHA's recognize each other in the US,is that alone proof of regularity?
Notice that there are a ton of jurisdictions that use Prince Hall in their names but that do not have regular origins. It is an important step that there be recognition among the members of this branch of our family because it serves as a filter to easily eliminate clandestine jurisdictions from consideration.
As to being sufficient proof in an of itself, no. There are clusters of jurisdictions that are not regular but that do recognize each other, like female only Masonic jurisdictions that aren't regular.
That's why I added extra steps.
"MWPHGLofOK has been recognized by GLofOK since 2004 and is thus regular -"
i have been to this site before bessel.org , and was skeptical at first, so if most but not all PHA masons are already recognized
by their mainstream counterparts and thus are all regular, would it be safe to say that all PHA masons are considered mainstream?
Both branches of our family in the US predate the country so both branches are "mainstream" but the word does not have a useful definition. What matters are regularity (ability for other jurisdictions to recognize) and recognition (ability of members to visit).
"MWPHGLofOK is not yet recognized by UGLE showing that regularity and recognition are not automatically the same thing "
can you elaborate on this bro MWPHGLOK is regular but not recognized?
Regular means they follow all of the landmarks, have a valid lineage from the mother jurisdictions, probably some other requirements. They could, and should, be recognized on request. I remember in California MWPHGLofCA+HI was declared regular a few years before there was recognition. It was part of our process.
Recognized, in addition to requiring regularity, requires either jurisdiction to have acknowledged the other. At it's best recognition is mutual but that's not always the case. At its best recognition is by request but that's not always the case. Recognition happens by vote or delegates at communication and/or by edict.
Often when a jurisdiction is founded someone goes on a world tour asking for recognition. I remember a brother from Latvia at one GL I attended.
In the US some jurisdictions issue blanket recognition. The bessel.org web site is no longer maintained so it has a list of jurisdictions that issue blanket recognition as of the point its maintenance stopped. At least MWPHGLofAR now does blanket recognition -
Since GLofTX and MWPHGLofTX recognize each other, MWPHGLofAR recognizes both by the blanket. Whether GLofTX returns the recognition or not. Because GLofAR does not recognize MWPHGLorAR, GLofTX does not return their recognition. It's not mutual yet. Blanket recognition works that way so it does not have to be mutual. In this case most GLofXX jurisdictions only recognize when the local jurisdictions recognize each other so it's definitely not returned. I don't think it's returned by any GLofXX jurisdiction. I think it was a smart strategy by MWPHGLofAR to issue the invitation.
Mutual recognition is interesting. California offered mutual recognition to nearly all PHA jurisdictions. I've bugged the Gr Sec about the rest but this year I missed the deadline to submit legislation to force a correction. Only about half of PHA jurisdictions have returned the offer. So far. If California were my only jurisdiction I could present myself to many PHA jurisdictions and it would be up to them to figure out if they can accept me.