racism question

Discussion in 'Prince Hall Freemasonry' started by freemasonpha, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. freemasonpha

    freemasonpha Registered User

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    Since I joined the Lodge I've been asked by caucasian Masons if I, as a caucasion Prince Hall Mason, have ever experienced racism.

    I've been questioned this question in person and randomly asked over fb when I post in fb groups and people see I'm white. The answer is no. Not at all. No racism whatsoever. I've been welcomed with open arms and feel right at home with my Brothers.

    Anyone experience racism in a Prince Hall Lodge?
     
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  2. David612

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    Sorry but I don’t have a lot to really contribute but it amazes me the amount of racial tension that appears to persevere in American culture (im assuming you are US based?) although we have our issues here in Australia as well it’s quite different to the history you have.
    Thankfully we have groups that put race, religion, creed, sexual preference etc aside and hopefully on a macro level that is improving relations at least a little.
     
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  3. freemasonpha

    freemasonpha Registered User

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    I'm Canadian. The questions have come from Brother in the US though...
     
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  4. CLewey44

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    Well, to my knowledge, I've never had any sort of racial issues from either PHA or non-PHA, black, white, Asian, Hispanic or whoever. I see way more interracial bickering than anything.
     
  5. David612

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    Ahh that makes sense, as an outsider looking in it just strikes me as such an alien idea to have this implied distance between people simply because of perceived cultural heritage, We in Australia are not without tragedy in our history and we still struggle with atrocities committed but the history of the black man in America is something on to itself.
    I remember when I visited D.C as a young boy of 11being on the bus doing usual tourist things and the feeling of tension being the only white family around, not that anything was said just an air of discomfort as though we did not belong, until we opened our mouths and had our Aussie accent give us away as not being locals, from then anyone on that bus would have helped us with directions as we where not a part of that world... sorry for the random story it just stuck with me..
     
  6. Ripcord22A

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    There was a cancer in my AASR valley a cpl years ago, took the Grand Commander to deal with it, that was as bigoted as they come. He was the Boss and was driving people away. Wanted to sell out building and move the valley about an hr south to a bigger city. He was over heard saying "ain't no ni&&3r gonna cook in my kitchen" prior to telling an Black Brother that his services weren't needed in the kitchen during a reunion.

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  7. Bloke

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    I'd be tempted to kill that weed at the root by bringing a charge in his Craft Lodge.
     
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  8. Ripcord22A

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  9. David612

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    And it went well by the sounds
     
  10. Glen Cook

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    I don’t disagree with the underlying motivations in bringing charges. The problem is when the craft lodge doesn’t care. Additionally, Masonic trials can lead to a dead lodge. Sometimes, extrajudicial actions can more easily deal with these issues.
     
  11. Ripcord22A

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    Well he was forced to a different Valley and removed from his leadership position in the Orient

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  12. David612

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    Wow, isn’t it amazing that some people just have such a huge blind spot for their own shortcomings
     
  13. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    Best to assume we all have that failing. I am sure I do.

    ***tries to chip away at ashlar***
     
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  14. David612

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    Yeah, I take your point and belive wholeheartedly that some have a easier road toward the perfect ashlar than others.
    Perhaps my intolerance for bigotry is my blind spot (not that I’m saying you tolerate such things, rather I shut down to the thoughts and opinions of people who carry that mentality) however I would argue that people who would would behave that way fail to meet the criteria for acceptance in freemasonry as it should be.
     
  15. Warrior1256

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    WOW!!! So this guy was not even the least bit subtle about it!
    If he couldn't be gotten rid of completely then this is good. Good riddance!
     
  16. Ripcord22A

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    Yes and ever since he and his crew have been gone the valley is much happier.

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  17. LK600

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    So many issues in this small word and people have to make skin tone one of them. I don't understand it, I'll never understand it, and I won't tolerate it around me.
     
  18. Warrior1256

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    It is very silly.
     
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  20. David612

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    It’s not a standard v Prince hall issue as I’ve never seen it in an Aussie blue lodge and I don’t think wh have Prince Hall lodges, it’s individual people within a lodge and they can show up anywhere.
     

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