Should individual lodges be able to serve alcohol?

Discussion in 'The Voting Booth' started by cemab4y, Apr 12, 2015.

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Should individual lodges be permitted to serve alcohol, in the lodge building.

  1. YES!

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  2. No

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  1. cemab4y

    cemab4y Premium Member

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    Before the disaster of prohibition, individual lodges in the USA, had the option of serving alcohol. In George Washington's time, at refreshments, they passed a jug around. Brother George ran a distillery.

    In nearly all countries where Masonry is practiced, alcohol is available in the lodges. Only in the USA, are (some, but not all )lodges "dry".

    What do YOU think? Should we return to the splendid tradition of having wine/beer/liquor in our lodges?

    (This poll is for discussion ONLY, I am not interested in changing the policies of any lodge or Grand Lodge.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2015
  2. Glen Cook

    Glen Cook G A Cook Site Benefactor

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    I recollect temperance lodges in England in the last 12 years. I am aware of US GLs which allow alcohol.
     
  3. crono782

    crono782 Premium Member

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    I think it would be fine, with a few ground rules (partly for peace and harmony, partly to comply with law). I think hard liquors would be best left alone (though I thoroughly enjoy my whiskeys), but beer and wine, if served AFTER a meeting, would be excellent!
     
  4. dfreybur

    dfreybur Premium Member

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    I rather like the tradition of toasts with drink at Table Lodge. I think it hilarious when done with juice. But your jurisdiction, your rules. I rather like the California rules on how to have beer and wine available after the tiled meeting is over or at events where the lodge is not tiled. But that's only 1 of my 3 jurisdictions.

    The rules have to follow state law so they need to be different in each state. I rather like that brothers in my Texas lodge tend to go have a beer after some of our meetings. So you don't have to allow drink on our premises or in our meetings for it to happen. Arguably the Shrine emerged as a result of drink being banned at the blue lodge level in most/all of the US around a century ago.
     
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  5. cemab4y

    cemab4y Premium Member

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    I visit a lodge in Fredericksburg VA, when I am able. After the meeting is over, some of the men will walk a block down the street to a tavern, and enjoy a brew. I once visited a lodge in Florida, which adjourned and then we strolled to a nearby tavern.

    I believe sincerely, that we can return to the tradition of the moderate use of alcohol in our lodge buildings. Maybe brandy and cigars after the meeting. Or beer and wine with the festive board.

    We are all adults, and I believe sincerely, that we can enjoy beverages in moderation.
     
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  6. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    I am all for it.....however what about jurisdictions that 18 is the lawful age to be made a mason?
     
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  7. cemab4y

    cemab4y Premium Member

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    I do not see a problem. If a lodge has a license to serve alcohol, then each person will have to show ID, that they are of legal majority. In fraternal organizations, they have family events, where alcohol is served.
     
  8. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    Yes 100% yes. There is something unique about spirits with friends.
     
  9. Bill Lins

    Bill Lins Moderating Staff Staff Member

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    That's how we handle it @ my Lodge. We have some Brethren who do not drink or care to be around those who do. By leaving the Lodge premises, those Brethren can leave without offending or being offended. The rest of us walk next door to a restaurant where we can fellowship over adult beverages & cigars. Works well for everyone.
     
  10. dalinkou

    dalinkou Premium Member

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    I don't drink, but I'm good with it either way.
     
  11. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    Everything we do teaches us something. Spending an evening drinking with friends teaches one way to enjoy life. Spending an evening not drinking with our Brothers teaches us another way to enjoy life.

    I do not believe that spending one evening a month without drinking should constitute a hardship for any good man. If it does then perhaps they should join one of the fraternal drinking clubs.
     
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  12. Bro. Stewart P.M.

    Bro. Stewart P.M. Lead Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    Personally speaking, the Lodge is not the place for drinking. For me, Lodge is for being with like minded Brethren working in harmony together in the Quarries. Now, that being said I DO enjoy good cigars and frosty beverages with friends... there are other times and places for just that.

    Just my thoughts on the question.
     
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  13. MarkR

    MarkR Premium Member

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    Minnesota allows alcohol in the building, just not in the actual lodge room itself. We retire downstairs after lodge for a couple of beverages. This is a university town, and we found that it was difficult to fellowship in any of the bars downtown, because they are just too loud in the evenings.
     
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  14. mrpierce17

    mrpierce17 KOP Council director / Lodge instructor Premium Member

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    I'm for it as long as it's downstairs after all other business is adjourned
     
  15. Tpower31

    Tpower31 Premium Member

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    Our lodge is a licenced establishment and we have a fully stocked bar open on special nights.


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  16. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    Against it. What does alcohol have to do with freemasonry ? Why not leave the Lodge and go have a drink. I'm so tired of seeing brothers post pictures with Masonic emblems on while drinking. Sorry, off my rant now

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  17. Bloke

    Bloke Premium Member

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    The same thing food and fellowship and conversation has to do with the Craft..
     
  18. JamestheJust

    JamestheJust Registered User

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    I grew up (so to speak) in a dry lodge and was a bit disconcerted to join a wet lodge, but as the drinking was after the meeting I did not have any problem with that.

    And I have never seen a drunk Mason, with the exception of a deputy DC who was a Vietnam vet and he treated his PTSD with large amounts of alcohol at any time including before opening the lodge. On the other hand he was the only brother I met who could actually see the pavement of the Freemason's lodge extending across the landscape from E to W and N to S.
     
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  19. Ressam

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    IMHO,
    No vodka&beer, but,
    Good Red Wine!
     
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  20. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    Again ur not a freemason so you dont get an opinon...honest or not!

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