Christianity in Freemasonry

Discussion in 'Frequently Asked Questions' started by Purkaple, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    BOOOOM!! GOOMBA hit the nail on the head!! ( great handle by the way and love the avatar)
     
  2. hanzosbm

    hanzosbm Premium Member

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    Exactly. They were also all Christians, that doesn't mean that the American Revolution was planned by the church.
     
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  3. Ripcord22A

    Ripcord22A Site Benefactor

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    Not true. Several of the founding fathers didnt identify with any religion. It was almost as if Masonry was their religion(EVEN THOUGH ITS NOT A RELIGION). I say this as BFranklin and one of the Adams(cant remember which one) and others said on more then on occasion that religion was a downfall of society. Obviously thats not a direct quote but u get the idea

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  4. Ripcord22A

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    Now that ive calmed down lets discuss this Ressam....you are not a Freemason yet you think we need to change how we do things? How can you have an opinion on something that you have never experienced? Thats kinda like telling a pilot how to land his jumbo jet cause you read a book about planes once. Do you understand? Please sir keep your comments to topics that dont contain the workings of and matters of the craft itself.
    If you have an opino on whether a lodge should serve alcohol..ok no big deal. But to say that we are in contact with aliens or that we need a huge hige tramsformation.....not cool.

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  5. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    Greetings, Mr.Madsen!
    Nice that you are in good mood!
    I just wondered: on what degree are you now(additional)?
     
  6. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    There is no need to "have an experience" to -- "have an opinion on something".
     
  7. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    LOL!

    The Blank Space Law: If there is a blank space to fill, even the most ignorant and naïve among the verbally enabled are compelled to have and fearlessly share opinions about things of which they have no clue, if for no other reason then to just to fill that space.
     
  8. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    Greetings, Coach! :)
    No "filling"!
    It's like:
    I'm not lawyer, but, I have an opinion on law.
    I'm not accountant, but, I have opinion on accountacy, etc., etc.
     
  9. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    I'll give a crude example, sex. You can read about it and you can watch it. But until you have sex you don't grasp it.

    It's not that you can't have an opinion or thoughts. But those thoughts and opinions are very limited. We all have thoughts about various things we don't know much about. When we do we should expect the ones in the know to speak out. I don't know all of the brothers on this site but I do know Coach. While Coach and I may disagree on a Masonic matter does not change the fact that we are both in the know*.

    Mr. Ressam, I ask you to hold back some and listen. We Masons are proud of our Craft and love to talk about it. On the flip side we have been on the receiving end of countless conspiracies, lies, and misunderstandings. At times we can be prickly because of this.

    *I admit my knowledge is still limited and pray I always believe it is.
     
  10. goomba

    goomba Neo-Antient Site Benefactor

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    Thank you brother.
     
  11. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    Thanks for the answer, Mr.Goomba!
    Probably, yes.
    It depends on "the subject"!
    Nuclear Engineering, sex,
    is different from Law, accountancy and others.
     
  12. Ressam

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    But, what's really interesting is that:
    Why Mr.Madsen, living in the famous New Mexico state -- does not believe in Extraterrestrial Civilizations!
     
  13. Winter

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    I don't want to dogpile on anyone here. But, that being said, I have to question the motives of a person who insists in frequenting a discussion forum for a particular subject and continually attempts to offer advice and counsel in that subject when they freely admit have no experience in the matter, only an opinion.

    If that person had a sincere desire to be involved in and gain experience in that subject in order to contribute meaningful discussion, I believe they would have done so by now. But to claim that incorrect observations on the subject matter have merit because a person is permitted to have an opinion on subjects they have no experience in only serve to detract from meaningful discussion.

    I bear you no ill will Ressam, but your cryptic and often outright incorrect replies often only succeed in frustrating those who have come here to discuss Freemasonry.

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  14. coachn

    coachn Coach John S. Nagy Premium Member

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    It's clear that you are opinionated and are willing to share your opinion as fact, even when it is abundantly clear to those who know better that you don't know better and that you have no clue as to how you opinion clearly expresses your ignorance.

    You are not a Freemason. Your expressions clearly indicate that you are both ignorant of Freemasonry and that you have drawn false conclusions and developed delusional attitudes toward it.

    This post shall not temper you from discontinuing your rubbish burdened posts. It is to inform you that to continue as you have is read as a sign in itself that you're yourself unsuitable to contribute as you have.

    That being said, I must label you "Troll" and once again ignore the rubbish you put forth.
     
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  15. chrmc

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    Now I don't want to be crude, but you know what they say about opinions. They are like a**holes - everybody has one ;)
    Think the point that a number of the guys are trying to make that it is ok to have an opinion and express it. But that doesn't mean that it's a particularly good or informed one.

    Not until you go through a given experience can you really speak to it with some level of authority.
     
  16. Ressam

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    Excuse me, Coach!
    Excuse me, Gentlemen!
    Didn't want to hurt anyone, really!
    Wish everyone -- Strong Health! Prosperity & Happiness!
    Coach, I told before that:
    I am not "troll"! Really. And don't have intention to do that!
    I just want to -- get true, trustable, correct information on Freemasonry. That's all.
    Excuse me, again.
     
  17. Bro. Stewart P.M.

    Bro. Stewart P.M. Lead Moderator Emeritus Staff Member

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    Ressam,

    The creator gave you two ears and but one mouth for a reason. The reason is such that we should listen more than we speak.

    I suggest to you as a Moderator and Mason that you do indeed listen to those experienced more than you speak when it comes to Freemasonry. There are many more years of fraternal experience on this site than can be counted, this means to someone who is a eavesdropper to our Craft, that there is a wealth of knowledge and answers to many questions unknown.

    I suggest to you now, that you heed to what the majority of members replying within this thread suggest (in many variations) to do a lot more listening.

    Stewart
     
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  18. Ressam

    Ressam Registered User

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    Thanks Mr.Stewart.
    I understood.
     
  19. pointwithinacircle2

    pointwithinacircle2 Rapscallion Premium Member

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    The ignore button is a form of moderation.
     
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  20. Travelling Man91

    Travelling Man91 Registered User

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    What is your fascination with nukes and so called extraterrestrial creatures and how does this pertain to freemasonry ? I guess what I'm getting at is, maybe you should check out other forums that specialize in those topics.

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