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Secrecy

dfreybur

Premium Member

Jefferson Airplane song.

One pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small. And the ones that Mother gives you, don't do anything at all. Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall ...

The tale of Alice in Wonderland is good myth because it has many layers of meaning. Fantasy for children. Metaphor and entendre for adults. Questions about the meaning of perception and the reality of dreams. The simulated universe hypothesis. Even the song isn't as shallow as it seems on the surface because it reverses who is who in the perspective.
 

Brother JC

Moderating Staff
Staff Member
Jefferson Airplane song.

One pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small. And the ones that Mother gives you, don't do anything at all. Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall ...

The tale of Alice in Wonderland is good myth because it has many layers of meaning. Fantasy for children. Metaphor and entendre for adults. Questions about the meaning of perception and the reality of dreams. The simulated universe hypothesis. Even the song isn't as shallow as it seems on the surface because it reverses who is who in the perspective.

The quote regarding the red and blue was from the movie, "The Matrix."
 

SCStrong

Registered User
I am late to join this thread but:

I am fairly new to the craft - but I have been happily married for some time. As I understand it, the primary secrets are the modes of recognition, rituals, signs, and tokens. You should be free to ( and should ) discuss what Masonry means to you, why you want to be a part of it, what the ideals/ guiding tenets of Masonry are , and a feel for what being a Mason means, with your significant other. Assure her that nothing in Masonry will conflict with the marriage vows or your familial obligations. ( because they should not ). My suggestion is to be as open as you can without violating your Masonic obligations. I am in the US so, I have not had to deal with any anti- Masonic people in the work place. I am sure they exist, I just haven't dealt ( knowingly) with them. Best of luck to you........ hope my ramblings helped you.
 

GKA

Premium Member
Many brothers that I know choose to keep their Masonic status a secret, that is a personal choice in my opinion and can have both benefits and negative consequences, it depends upon your situation, as for sharing secrets with your spouse, I am inclined to ask why would you want to? The whole secrecy thing concerning Masonry has gotten carried away, the secrecy is really, only a method of showing integrity an commitment to your oath, none of it really warrents such a status, it probably did in the past when Masons were persecuted. Your ability to keep secret that which is required is a statement to your integrity as a person.
 

Bloke

Premium Member
If however a brother learned to use 'the working tools" in a "moral sense" then he could measure many moral aspects, for example the level of corruption (trueness) in public officials. Such a skill would need to be kept secret in order to survive.

So your saying Malcom Turnbull is going to send his crack hit squad after you should you have, and should it become known, you have such knowledge ?

Come on James....We're in the realm of silly.. or do you think we should be afraid of Johnny Howard climbing through our bedroom window with a knife between his teeth because of our Masonic knowledge ?
 

Warrior1256

Site Benefactor
the secrecy is really, only a method of showing integrity an commitment to your oath,
Your ability to keep secret that which is required is a statement to your integrity as a person.
As I have come to expect from you Brother these are wise and accurate words. If I can not be trusted to keep secret a hand grip or password then I can not be trusted with the bigger things in life. If I can not keep my Brother's confidence then I lose it.
 

Ripcord22A

Site Benefactor
So your saying Malcom Turnbull is going to send his crack hit squad after you should you have, and should it become known, you have such knowledge ?

Come on James....We're in the realm of silly.. or do you think we should be afraid of Johnny Howard climbing through our bedroom window with a knife between his teeth because of our Masonic knowledge ?
Thats exactly whats gonna happen didnt you know!?

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LK600

Premium Member
Straw man arguments are easy

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.

James, I think you would need to expand on your comment since I do not believe the "straw man" was intentional but based on a lack of information/explanation.
 
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