No Women in the Frat but Could we Share our Rituals

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Can we Share Rituals with Women?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not only No, squash the Women talk

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  1. rhitland

    rhitland Founding Member Premium Member

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    Yeah you should see the Brother's bachelor pad, all the video games and movie a guy could want, even a poster of Arnold. No where even close to having a roommate much less a wife. Funny thing is though his house is clean, I mean like metrosexual clean. I keep telling him comments like that will keep him single. lol
     
  2. scottmh59

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    i even have a vacuum.
    and right now there is no room for a wife,unless she doesnt own anything..cause i dont have the room for her crap.i got too many cool things that need the space:8:
     
  3. RedTemplar

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    Well, if it ever happens, there certainly wont be a shortage of Sr. Deacons.
     
  4. ddreader

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    come on brother, i thought i had to much idol time. you must be joking on this one. and if your not. wow! maybe you could bring it up for discussion at grand lodge, and try to muster up some support there. i sure the brothers would be more than glad to tell you what they think. life would be boring without brothers like you. keep up the good work. lol.
     
  5. jwhoff

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    but ... but ... she'll find out I can wash dishes!
     
  6. Bro. Bennett

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    My thoughts and opinion: If we were to recognise an all womens organization, and allowed them to operate independantly of GLoT, yet if they were fully recognised, we would have to allow them to enter our Lodge on meeting night, which in essence is allowing them to infiltrate our Fraternity. I say NO. I am not willing to share, nor admit anyone if they are not a "Brother" and if, GLoT were to allow this, I would have to demit to keep myself true to my Obligation.. I already have a major issue with some of our supposed "Bretheren" not holding the same principles and beliefs that I read about in My Bible, that being my instruction manual for life.
    We have all taken upon ourselves a duty to protect and preserve OUR principles in this Fraternity, we should stick to it, and leave this discussion alone before it causes great strife from within.
    Just my humble opinion.....
     
  7. bgs942

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    Thanks Bro Bennett. I too have major issues with Brethren that draw the line with a paint roller instead of a tool sharpened pencil. We must be what we expect to see.
     
  8. Robert G

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  9. JohnnyFlotsam

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    "Healing" of a portion of the obligation is within the power of a Grand Master. So that argument is one that you would have to settle with no one but yourself.
    Perhaps I am reading more into this than I should...
    Are you seriously saying that you "have a problem" with any Brother who doesn't not embrace your chosen collection of religious dogma? Really?
     
  10. Heirophant

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    Who's to say there isn't one already? FreemaSONry should be available to all whom are interested in it's FRATernal BROtherly Spiritual Bondage. I have no problem with it, as long as it's not 'secretly' being used to subjugate men. Believe it or not, many women have historically taken the position against our Sacred Fraternity with hints & allegations that a 'boys only' club is an 'Evil' thing. Allegations that are obviously false, however who is to say that many women don't still hold that position?
     
  11. Dave in Waco

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    I would have to disagree with your conclusion here. I have a hard time believing many women would take that position otherwise they wouldn't have allowed so many of us to belong to it.
     
  12. jhodgdon

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    My Brother, with all due respect to your opinion, that is one of the most narrow minded statements I have ever heard. We are not all going to agree on every single theological issue which is why we are not supposed to talk about it in Lodge. Our personal religious beliefs are NOT the premise of our Brotherhood, nor the qualification of being a "Brother". I can tell you right now I probably don't agree with most of your theological views but this has no bearing on your position as my Brother. From what I understand we are more or less supposed to "agree to disagree" on minor differences in the interest of parting ways on the square in peace and harmony. Just my humble opinion... 
     
  13. Heirophant

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    well...actually....older members of our Sacred Fraternity can attest to vowing never ever ever ever to talk about the Fraternity even to their family. I know it's difficult to believe, but many brothers weren't allowed to run around with the square&compass on their license plates. The original incarnation of the 'Shrine' club was a wild bunch, everybody knows that...a really wild bunch. What we can agree on is that we are both brothers and it is our duty to the longevity of the Order to address issues regarding membership. We can also agree on Peace. One of the most important attributes our Fraternity instills.
     
  14. JohnnyFlotsam

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    I am keenly interested in any references you have to support this. I don't doubt it, but I'd really like to be able to back it up.
    If we can agree that "issues of membership" fall well below things like guarding the West Gate, providing real Masonic instruction to our members, etc., then yes, membership is an issue. On the other hand, if do the rest of that stuff right, membership will take care of itself. Really.
     
  15. MikeMay

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    My wife was like....:47: when she found out I could wash dishes...
     
  16. bgs942

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    I am thinking how the Bible is explained in the EA degree. I FULLY agree with Bro. Bennett's statement. I too have seen Brothers who seem to walk way out of step regarding the guidance therein and how it is explained we are to view/use the Bible as Masons.
     
  17. jhodgdon

    jhodgdon Registered User

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    Maybe it's different over here 
     
  18. JohnnyFlotsam

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    Which "bible" would that be, exactly?
     
  19. Bro. Bennett

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    Well thank you Brother, I am pretty narrow minded when it comes to my interpretation of my rule book. You are correct, we will probably never agree on our Theological view points, however, having this thread gave me an oportunity to share mine as you did you'rs. Isn't this a great thing, to allow our views to be shared with others? As for the statement I made about Bretheren not holding themselves to the same standards I choose to hold myself to, in my position in life, I have to hold myself to a standard which is above reproach, therefore I must share when led by my conscience to do so.
    Now, with that said, I hope you and everyone else has a wonderful day....
     
  20. bgs942

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    The one and ONLY. Last I knew it was the Holy Bible.
     
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